Went ice climbing at Heart Creek today with Ian Beckett. we never even saw the falls the water was poring down pretty good and there was a pool before we could get to it that would have meant getting wet jsut to have a look so figured that it would not be worth it. the seeps were rather fat. the one on the left was very low angle and we never bothered with it and the one on the right was our best option so we took it. it had so steep stuff but wasn't serious. the ice was terrible. Brittle like all get out, not to mention the rotten and wet ice which made protecting rather difficult. to top rope the high part it took two ropes tied together to reach to the creek. my conclusion to the day is that vipers are seeming to be pretty sweet tools. i do beleive that they beat out the fusions. they feel quite nice to swing and hold on to and leashes are a cool thing. and viper leases that if you don't want them they are not in the way waving around really sweet. was jsut good to get out. so i dunno if anyone reads this but contact me if you are wanting tio get out to do anything.
jason
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